How I got into the GP training programme I MSRA exam I The Junior Doctor


hello everyone and welcome back to my
channel my name is Ezgi and I’m a 29
year old GP trainee working in a North
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so today I’m going to address a question
that I have been getting a lot since
I’ve announced on Instagram and YouTube
that I am going to go into GP training
after my f2 years so just a little bit
of a summary for those who don’t know
once you graduate from medical school
you do f1 and f2 in the UK these are
called foundation training years one and
two and it’s basically a start up and to
get you into the world of medicine and
equipped you with everything that you
should know before you go into specialty
training so when I got to my f2 I had
made the decision that I want to go into
GP training and there’s lots of reasons
I wanted to do this so for me the pros
were that I had patient continuity it
was very frustrating for me in hospital
to see a patient and then not be able to
see them the next day or clunk a patient
ami and then not be able to follow up
what happened to them on the wards but
when I did my GP placement in f2 I
really enjoyed the fact that the patient
came to see me I was able to prescribe
something or send them away with some
advice and they would come back and tell
me what’s changed what’s happened and
then we would sort of work things out
from there and not only was it nice just
to see that patient again but it was
also really helpful for my own learning
the second and most important thing that
most people choose GP for is the fact
that it’s very flexible particularly
once you finish the training and you
work as a GP you can choose the amount
of sessions that you do so when we say
sessions that means a morning clinic
from about 8 to 11 will be one session
so you can choose how many sessions you
want to do a week how many hours you
want to do how many days you want to
work and so it’s very flexible and for
that reason many people choose to go
into it particularly those who are
planning on families and that’s what
stuff anyway
so that’s just a quick summary of why I
wanted to go into GP there’s lots of
other reasons why but I won’t go into it
because this video is all about how I
got into GP training and the exams that
I sacked the resources that are used and
what happened in the end so once I made
the decision I wanted to go into this
training program I had to sign up to the
application and this is done through
oriole so some of you may already
remember this from when we were applying
for foundation programs so oriole is the
sort of national website that we use to
apply for training programs
this year’s training program application
starts from the 7th of November to the
28th of November and that usually
changes every year but it’s roughly sort
of those days every year so what happens
is you’ll go onto the website you will
put in all of your details and it will
ask you things like where you enter
medical school like when you graduated
if your GMC you registered all of that
sort of stuff and to make sure that you
actually fit the criteria to apply and
then you get given the options of
ranking your choices so this year well
when I applied they done it through like
each hospital so when I was applying it
was things like Barney Enfield Hackney
that’s all stuff so you are able to
apply for a specific area and so I
ranked all the ones I wanted to and I
didn’t write too many because I said to
myself if I don’t get into these ones
that I actually want and I’m not gonna
be moving away so if I don’t get them
then I’ll just apply again next year so
I didn’t rank the 300 jobs aware that
that was on that and then I sent my
application off so once you’ve submitted
your application then you enter the face
of the exams and there are two things
that you need to be able to do first you
need to sit the msre exam which stands
for multi specialty recruitment
assessment I think and apart from GP
trainees there are lots of other
specialities that also sit this exam and
then I went ahead and I booked myself
onto the exam so the exam is free of
charge
and so I didn’t need to pay anything for
it I think the window for the exam was
between like the 3rd and the 7th of
January and I books mine in the earliest
I can get it in because I just wanted to
go sit it and get out the way and finish
with my exams and the second is you need
to go to an interview which is basically
about five stations I think set up in an
auskey way where you have a examiner and
a actor and then they observed your
communication skills with them and I
think one of the stations is
prioritization so it’s more like a
paper-based task but before I get into
that I wanted to tell you best about how
I prepared for it so I get lots of
questions about what resources are used
so the two and only resources are used
were something called the mcq Bank and
the past medicine MS are a section of
their websites but before I made this
decision to use these resources I read a
really helpful PDF by somebody called
dr. Sarah Cooper’s GP recruitment guide
I mean if you put that into Google or I
can link it down below as well
you will get a a website boom to sign up
with your name and email etc and then
you get sent a PDF and in this PDF is
the GP recruitment sort process all the
things that you need to know some useful
advice from previous people who have
applied and how they’ve been successful
so it was a useful guide to just read to
get my head around you know what I was
going to do like I said I used the MC
cube and compassed med and I have a tip
for you in regards to revising the
sections from these exams so what I did
was when I first started I did something
really silly which was I went on to the
question Bank and just did one question
at a time so it was all very random so
I’d get like one question on cardiology
one on rs1 and dime and and that’s that
sort of stuff but then I spoke to you
one of the GP trainings that had already
got into the program and the way they
did it was they chose us
checked from each question Bank and did
that one at a time so I would go to mzq
Bank I would do cardiology on there so
all of the questions and then I would go
on to past medicine and do all of the
cardiology questions on there and then
sort of write notes as I’m going along
nothing too extensive just the bits and
pieces that I want to remember at the
end of that session and so that just
really helped me consolidate all of the
knowledge so I did that with all of the
topics and I left the SJT component to
the end I think I’d booked my exam for
5th of January last year I left the sjt
to the last two weeks so when each
question bank they have the sjt
component on there and the way I went
about it was just going through each
question and reading the reasoning and
some of the questions were bit off and I
didn’t really agree with them but
generally I was getting like the correct
answers and I think now that I have done
f1 f2 it was much easier for me to work
out what to do in these ethical
scenarios that they were presenting me
with I could actually imagine myself in
that situation and think practically
what would I do so it’s much easier this
time around than it was when I did it in
final year for my foundation year
application the msre exam is based on a
computer and if you remember from when
he did the UK cats or even when he did
your theory test for your driver’s
license it’s in the same test centre so
when I walked in I was looking at
everyone doing their theory tests and I
was like oh my god I’d love to be doing
what you’re doing right now because I
just really don’t want to be sitting
this exam they give you headphones so
you’re not distracted by everyone coming
in and out they give you a whiteboard
and a pen so you can jot a few things
down and you are allowed to choose where
you want to sit so why chose some lawyer
that was in the corner that wasn’t in
the middle of the room where people were
gonna keep walking past me so I sat
there i did the exam sort of when I was
putting on the headphones I sort of shut
everything off focused on what was in
front of me
I didn’t really struggle with time I
thought the timing was quite fair I got
through some of the questions very
quickly but
they were very simple questions and
one-word answers that didn’t really need
much input from me only some of the
questions that took time with the sjt
questions and some of the
multiple-choice questions I just had to
be careful with I finished the exam I
left everything then I just forgot about
it and then went home I think it was
about I’m gonna say I’m gonna say the
wrong thing now I think it was about a
month later or about three weeks later
that we got the results so we you have
to wait for everybody to finish their
exams so I was the one who sat the exam
like first and just bear in mind also
that the exam is different for everybody
so once you sit the exam on a third you
can’t then come out and tell your friend
the questions because when they sit on
the fourth or the fifth it’s gonna be
completely different so anyway so I came
out with exam three weeks later got an
email saying that everyone had sat the
exams they put everyone on the scale and
anybody who was who scored more than 550
points was fast-tracked past the
interviews which meant that you got a
place straightaway and didn’t need to go
to the interview phase and I was very
lucky that I was one of those people I
think I ended up scoring really well in
a couple of the bits like in particular
and so I was just completely
fast-tracked and it was such a sigh of
relief that I didn’t need to then
continue on and prepare for the
interviews but I had quite a few friends
who had to do the interviews so just to
just to give you an idea apparently I’m
25% of the people get over 550 I’m not
sure if that’s true and anybody that
gets less than that is invited to go to
the interview but if you get a really
really low score I think you’re just not
allowed to proceed at all so you just
have to try again next year so a few of
my friends went to the interview phase
the way they prepared was to pair up
with people that were already sitting
the interviews as well and I’ll think of
some resources down below but they use
some websites I think the GP recruitment
website also has some scenarios and I
think the mcq bank also had some
scenarios so they basically sat together
either on FaceTime Skype or face-to-face
and went through these scenarios and
basically acted out what they would do
in the exam and all of them went to the
interview smashed it and got the place
that they wanted so just because you
don’t get a fast track doesn’t mean
you’re very unlikely to go somewhere
really far or go somewhere that you
don’t want once everybody has completed
the interview phase then you’ll be
you’ll have the confirmation of where
you got as your placement because I was
able to fast track the interviews I was
very confident that I was going to get
my first choice placement and I so I was
very happy with that all of the rankings
were locked and everyone made their last
choices and then the application shot
down I think about couple of weeks after
that everyone got their offer so you
would get an email to say well done
you’ve been allocated so-and-so and you
either accept or decline and obviously
because I got my first choice I accepted
and that’s what it wanted however some
people wanted to decline and be put on a
waiting list to see if there were
anything that they’d ranked higher would
become available because what happens is
people sit these exams they get to the
end again offer and actually they want
to go and do something else like
medicine or surgery and so they withdraw
their application altogether and if that
happens and that spot then becomes free
you can bump your application up so
that’s what some people did when you get
to you the end of this process you can
also define your entry so many of my
friends that I know ended up deferring
their entries some of them why because
they were traveling some of them were
because they had a wedding to plan and
others just wanted some time off before
they committed themselves to a busy
router so you can defer your entry for
the next year so this brings us to you
about the end of February at this point
bearing in mind that we ended up
applying in November and the start date
for this is August and 2020 or August
whenever it is that you apply now there
are some people who do this out of sync
so there’s a couple of people on our
program who have started in February so
there are some opportunities to apply
later on in the
and join the program in the February
cohort so I think that means that they
end up applying around July August from
the year before end up sitting the msre
around October if I’m not wrong and then
then start their program in February
because our GP programs are six monthly
so once I finish herbs and going for
example now in February I’ll be going
into medicine so there might be a few
new starters that are joining us in
February so it’s a bit of out of sync
however most people do do the August
starts but it’s not the end of the world
if you’ve missed it or you’ve changed
your mind and you want to join in later
so that’s all the information I have
guys I will link everything that I know
down below I hope I’ve answered most of
your questions there’s one other thing
that I’d like to add at the end of this
video before I finish I know that there
are a lot of international medical
graduates who are also interested in
coming to the UK to be a GP I will give
you a story of one of my colleagues who
did that and her outcome but like I said
I don’t know very much about the process
so please don’t ask me any more
questions so to the best of my knowledge
and if you are an international medical
graduate who comes to the UK does all
their exams and gets their GMC license
can apply for the GP training program
however the UK and residents and that
also UK graduates are given priority
over these jobs so what one of my
colleagues ended up doing is she ends up
doing the msre
and the interview however she had to
wait for everybody to have their offers
see what was left and then was put in to
a place and I think he ended up being
her 20th choice but like I said what
happened was because loads of people
withdraw their applications because I
know what no longer wanted to go ahead
with the program she then got bumped up
to her seventh choice so despite you
being left behind and given the last
choice options because the UK residents
are given priority it doesn’t mean that
you’ll be left with a crappy job if
that’s what makes sense so yeah that’s
all the information I have for you today
thank you
so much for watching please give this
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helps me to grow and if you have any
further questions then pop them in the
comments below and I’ll try my very best
to answer them for you see in my next
video bye

16 Replies to “How I got into the GP training programme I MSRA exam I The Junior Doctor”

  1. i cant believe how different the training is in the UK compared to north america! here, it is unheard of for someone to withdraw their application to a postgrad training program once they've been offered a position. such good insight into how training for medicine varies around the world.

  2. Always looking glamorous!! Love the videos love the content even though I’m not going to be a GP. So excited when you post 😊😊

  3. I think this is the best choice you could have ever done !
    So many benefits to be a GP
    Well done Ezgi
    The best of luck ❤️

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